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Talking Tough

Forty-five races and not a single win — that is the stubborn reality of Talking Tough's career, and yet here is a nine-year-old still turning up, still finding a way to finish in the places six times along the way. It is a record that tells a story of a horse that competes without ever quite crossing the line first, a nearly-horse in the truest sense.Based on TrackLab's AI analysis
Quick Facts
Age
9 years old
Sex
Gelding
Colour
Bay
Father
Tough As Nails
Mother
Granny On Fire
Trainer
Owner
Garry Fleming
Rating
34

📊 Key Numbers

Career statistics for this horse
45
Career races
0
Wins
0%
Win rate
avg ~10%
13.3%
Place rate (top 3)
avg ~30%
1 days
Since last race

🔍 Full Analysis

TrackLab's AI-generated assessment based on career data and recent form
TrackLab's Detailed Breakdown
Auto-Generated

The recent form makes for difficult reading. A fifteenth-place finish in the most distant of the last six recorded runs has given way to a pair of blank results, then an eighth, a seventh, and most recently a fourth — which at least suggests some momentum back towards respectability, even if the winner's enclosure remains as far away as ever. Talking Tough raced just one day ago, so whatever shape it is in right now, we are seeing it in real time.

Wesley Joyce has been the regular partner for this horse, riding in all six of the most recent races together and yet to share a winning moment. That is not necessarily a criticism of either horse or jockey — some partnerships are built on patience — but six rides, zero wins, and a horse that has never won from 45 attempts does paint a particular picture. At nine years old, Talking Tough is at an age where most horses with big ambitions have long since delivered on them. The fact that it keeps racing is a credit to whoever is keeping it in training, even if the results have not followed.

There is something almost admirable about a horse that has lined up 45 times and kept finding a way to finish close enough to place, even without winning. Six placed finishes from 45 races means it has shown up in the money just over 1 in every 7 races — not a blank record by any means, but also a reminder that being competitive and being a winner are two very different things. Talking Tough has carved out a career on the right side of that line, just never quite the right side of the winning post.

Strengths & Risks

What the data says works for and against this horse
⚠ What to watch out for
Yet to win at Listowel in 8 attempts

🎯 Where This Horse Thrives

Performance broken down by ground, distance, class, and track type
🌧 Ground Conditions
Good (firm-ish)
Unknown
Yielding (slightly soft)
Unknown
Soft (muddy)
Unknown
Heavy (very wet)
Unknown
Standard (all-weather)
Unknown
Good to yielding (mild give)
Unknown
Soft to heavy (wet)
Unknown
Yielding to soft (damp)
Unknown
Good to firm (drying out)
Unknown
📏 Race Distance
5F – 6½F
Unknown
7F – 1M
Unknown
1M1F – 1M2F
Unknown
1M3F – 1M4F
Unknown
1M6F – 2M
Unknown
Long Distance (2M+)
Unknown
🏟 Track Shape
Left-handed, tight turns
Unknown
Right-handed, long straights
Unknown
Left-handed, long straights
Unknown
Right-handed, tight turns
Unknown
Right-handed, tight
Unknown
Right-handed, hilly
Unknown
Long straights
Unknown

📅 Recent Runs

The last 10 races, most recent first
20 Jul
4th
Ballinrobe
1m1f – 1m2f · Good_To_Yielding · 11 runners
2 Jul
7th
Bellewstown
1m6f – 2m · Good · 7 runners
20 Jun
8th
Down Royal
1m3f – 1m4f · Soft · 17 runners
7 Jun
DNF
Navan
1m6f – 2m · Good · 15 runners
31 May
DNF
Listowel
1m6f – 2m · Good · 7 runners
27 Oct
15th
Galway
1m3f – 1m4f · Heavy · 21 runners
26 Sep
11th
Listowel
1m6f – 2m · Good_To_Yielding · 14 runners
11 Sep
11th
Clonmel
Long Distance (2m+) · Soft · 12 runners
1 Jun
7th
Listowel
1m6f – 2m · Good · 10 runners
28 Oct
8th
Galway
1m3f – 1m4f · Heavy · 21 runners

🏇 Jockey Partnerships

Every jockey who has ridden this horse, sorted by rides together
0%
Win rate
0/6
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/6
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/5
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/3
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/3
Won / Rode
Tom Kiely Marshall
0%
Win rate
0/2
Won / Rode
Jimmy Dalton
0%
Win rate
0/2
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/2
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/2
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode
0%
Win rate
0/1
Won / Rode

🏟 Track Record

Win rate at each course this horse has visited
CourseRacesResultsLast visitedWin rate
Listowel
Sharp
8 1 second, 7 other 31 May 0%
The Curragh
Galloping
4 4 other 22 Oct 0%
Bellewstown
Sharp
4 4 other 2 Jul 0%
Killarney
Sharp
4 1 second, 3 other 14 May 0%
Galway
Tight
4 1 third, 3 other 27 Oct 0%
Gowran Park
Undulating
3 3 other 24 Apr 0%
Dundalk
Galloping
3 3 other 9 Dec 0%
Sligo
Sharp
2 1 third, 1 other 3 Aug 0%
Fairyhouse
Galloping
2 2 other 1 Jun 0%
Limerick
Galloping
2 2 other 11 Jun 0%
Down Royal
Galloping
1 1 other 20 Jun 0%
Leopardstown
Galloping
1 1 other 20 Oct 0%
Navan
Galloping
1 1 other 7 Jun 0%
Cork
Galloping
1 1 other 16 Jun 0%
Laytown
Galloping
1 1 other 1 Nov 0%
Ballinrobe
Sharp
1 1 other 20 Jul 0%
Roscommon
Sharp
1 1 other 28 Jun 0%
Clonmel
Sharp
1 1 other 11 Sep 0%
Tipperary
Galloping
1 1 other 29 May 0%